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Rampager · Oct 20, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

very probably

pablo24 · Oct 20, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

The people who tested the dupe exploit got unbanned right after. ArenaNet was just running a script to ban anyone with anormal reconnect/trade activity or maybe just banned people who had more than one item with the same GUID. (I think they do have GUIDs for every item to prevent duping)

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

I'm going to be guessing that this will shut down the GWLP project.

Why should it? We are just helping ArenaNet to fix bugs before they get exploited by malicious people.

toon-a-loon · Oct 20, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23

What all could you do with this exploit?? I'm interested in that. I don't care about what the program was but I just wanna know all the things you could do with it.

toon-a-loon · Oct 20, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by pablo24

Why should it? We are just helping ArenaNet to fix bugs before they get exploited by malicious people.

Then you better close the download for GWLP for now. I have a few ideas in my head on how to do what your doing. It probably deals with opening GWLP then opening guild wars at the sametime.

Lord Sojar · Oct 20, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

If you're not banned, then good. But I wouldn't be suprised if you were.

And don't you want her to mention your names at PlayNC so you don't get banned? Otherwise, they'll just use their logs and see "okay these people used it banned".

Of course, this wasn't as widespread as the other exploits, so you may be fine. I'd expect the worst, though.

it isnt detectable... so best of luck to them.

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Originally Posted by toon-a-loon

Then you better close the download for GWLP for now. I have a few ideas in my head on how to do what your doing. It probably deals with opening GWLP then opening guild wars at the sametime.

Frankly... this is silly. THis is like saying TexMod can do dmg. No, GWLP has nothing to do with this, please don't get that great project shutdown.

pablo24 · Oct 20, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by toon-a-loon

Then you better close the download for GWLP for now. I have a few ideas in my head on how to do what your doing. It probably deals with opening GWLP then opening guild wars at the sametime.

The GWLP servers aren't even released yet, unless you are on the team you have no way of getting them. Even if you have them, it won't help you exploiting anything.

Leslie · Oct 20, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

This seems serious enough that the servers should really be taken down until it's fixed in my opinion

Bryant Again · Oct 20, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

it isnt detectable... so best of luck to them.

How is it not detectable? Are certain programs able to be coded so they can't be detected? That's what you're saying???

If so, then the botters are going to be pretty damned happy with this info.

But best of luck to you, since ANet has a really good method of banning. If you two *do* get banned, it'll just be temporate. Don't freak out, banned four times here. As long as you're totally innocent, you'll be fine.

Lord Sojar · Oct 20, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

How is it not detectable? Are certain programs able to be coded so they can't be detected? That's what you're saying???

If so, then the botters are going to be pretty damned happy with this info.

But best of luck to you, since ANet has a really good method of banning. If you two *do* get banned, it'll just be temporate. Don't freak out, banned four times here. As long as you're totally innocent, you'll be fine.

a program cannot be detected unless i raises flags on the server. if the server isn't programmed to even look at that data, it can't be seen. Essentially, this exploit revolves around the client code being weak. Without hinting at it anymore, that is about as much detail as I want to go into, or I think we should even go into. I don't even understand EXACTLY how it works, only Pablo does at this point.

toon-a-loon · Oct 20, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Frankly... this is silly. THis is like saying TexMod can do dmg. No, GWLP has nothing to do with this, please don't get that great project shutdown.

Who is to say that the programs GWLP are using to make it didn't get used to make a little .exe to exploit gw?? Obviously you guys had a idea to see if the .exe you made could do something to gw and it acually was able to do something, but you guys aren't abusing. So thats a good thing. All your intentions was good from the start. Anet always needs a little help on the side, to keep their players safe.

Lord Sojar · Oct 20, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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Originally Posted by toon-a-loon

Who is to say that the programs GWLP are using to make it didn't get used to make a little .exe to exploit gw?? Obviously you guys had a idea to see if the .exe you made could do something to gw and it acually was able to do something, but you guys aren't abusing. So thats a good thing. All your intentions was good from the start. Anet always needs a little help on the side, to keep their players safe.

When you dig through code, you are bound to find errors or missing sections. That is all that has happened. The .exe was created (as far as I am aware) to test to see if this "issue" really was true, and if they code was weak (which it obviously has proven to be)

toon-a-loon · Oct 20, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

When you dig through code, you are bound to find errors or missing sections. That is all that has happened. The .exe was created (as far as I am aware) to test to see if this "issue" really was true, and if they code was weak (which it obviously has proven to be)

Yep and its a good thing that is was found by good people.

magi of the light · Oct 20, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

can someone explain to me what GWLP is please?

Rainman · Oct 20, 2007, 04:43 PM // 16:43

meeee!! add me as soone mah jing to friends list but ill be on a pvp char when we test

IF WE ARE STILLTESTING AND SPACES ARE AVAILABLE!

toon-a-loon · Oct 20, 2007, 04:43 PM // 16:43

GWLP = Guild war lan project.

Its like a mod.

Loviatar · Oct 20, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

if they actually have found something

if they actually wanted to help

THEY WOULD HAVE PM GAILE AND SUPPORT NOT SPLASHED IT ALL OVER

THIS STINKS

magi of the light · Oct 20, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by toon-a-loon

GWLP = Guild war lan project.

Its like a mod.

can you be a bit more detailed please?

pablo24 · Oct 20, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Loviatar, calm down. I don't think posting this here will tell people how to reproduce the exploit, it deals with much more complicate things than just opening 2 Guild Wars at once.

As for GWLP, it isn't a "mod". Read this thread for more info http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10205152

Kashrlyyk · Oct 20, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

if they actually have found something

if they actually wanted to help

THEY WOULD HAVE PM GAILE AND SUPPORT NOT SPLASHED IT ALL OVER

THIS STINKS

They did that! You are a few pages too late for screaming around.

Lord Sojar · Oct 20, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

if they actually have found something

if they actually wanted to help

THEY WOULD HAVE PM GAILE AND SUPPORT NOT SPLASHED IT ALL OVER

THIS STINKS

If you had read, I am trying to directly contact Gaile, although she seems to be away atm.

If you had read, you would have noticed that is exactly what we are doing, and we are trying to keep this semi hush hush. The .exe is locked away and not about to be released.

YOUR RIGHT, THIS DOES STINK.